Gladys McGarey: A Conversation with the Mother of Holistic Medicine

Guy Kawasaki: I'm Guy Kawasaki, and this is Remarkable People. We're on a mission to make you remarkable. Today, we're on a mission to make you remarkable and live a long time. Helping me in this episode is the mother of holistic medicine, Dr. Gladys McGarey. She has been making a difference since the 1940s and is currently one hundred and two years old. She is a pioneer in both the allopathic and holistic medical movements. She seeks to bridge the gap between holistic and traditional medicine and has helped expand the knowledge and application of holistic principles through scientific research and education.
She's also a founding diplomat of the American Board of Holistic Medicine, the co-founder and past president of the American Holistic Medical Association, co-founder of the Academy of Parapsychology and Medicine, and founder of the International Academy of Clinical Hypnosis. She's been a busy little girl.
Gladys is also the author of several books, including The Physician Within You, Born to Live, Living Medicine, The World Needs Old Ladies, and her latest book, The Well-Lived Life: A 102-Year-Old Doctor's Six Secrets to Health and Happiness at Every Age. Tune in as she shares her wisdom, insights, and humor on bringing compassionate care to people all around the world. I'm Guy Kawasaki, this is Remarkable People, and now here is the remarkable Gladys McGarey.
So first thing I got to tell you is I love your license plates. I hope you've kept those plates. I don't know about the car. Did you keep the plates?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yes, I have the plate. I'm putting that in my will for my eldest son.
Guy Kawasaki: Maybe you can send us a picture of you holding up the plate because be glad, that's the perfect license plate for you. I want to know with hindsight, what has mattered most in your life?
Dr Gladys McGar...: I think, of course, my children, they have been my anchor and kept me going in the tough places and all of that. They've just been awesome. I couldn't have done things without them. Besides that, the whole concept that I had work to do. I came in understanding that I was a doctor and I needed to be a doctor, and my dolls got broken, and they had to get fixed, and my sister wouldn't let me play with hers, because they would get broken.
I think so many of us do come in with a real longing for what it is that we need to do. And so if we can find that early, that's great, but if you can find your voice like I did when I was ninety-three, that's great too. Because I was talking a lot before that, but I didn't accept what I was saying, not like I should have.
Guy Kawasaki: And you figured that out at ninety-three?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yeah. See, when I started school, I was so severely dyslexic that I had to repeat first grade twice because I was the class dummy. So that kind of a vision of yourself really etches your self-image. And I guess they call it analogous wounding or something. Now, they've got terms for things. But at that point, I had no idea that when I said something, what I thought was the truth, and I was writing things and talking, I had to have someone else look them over first before I really thought that, "Yeah, they're okay." But when I was ninety-three, do you want me to tell this story?
Guy Kawasaki: Yes, absolutely.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Okay. All right. I woke up one morning, it was a Sunday morning, I knew it was, and I woke up with a sound in my head and what I then saw myself doing, I saw myself as nine-year-old Gladys in the jungles of India coming out of our tent where we have the rule in our family that you didn't do anything but sing hymns and...on a Sunday morning because then... We weren't allowed to do that. And I was nine years old and I thought that was a stupid thing. So I wanted to not do it. And I knew that if my younger brother saw me, he'd tattle and I'd be in trouble. So I'm looking out of the tent, making sure he's not there, and he's not there. So I run as fast as I can up the tree. I get up to the top of the mango tree, and I'm sitting there and I'm singing.
I'm singing the Caterpillar song. I'm singing anything that's coming into my head. But just every so often, I look over my shoulder and Jesus is up in the tree with me. And I look at Jesus and I say, "Jesus loves the little children, right?' And he's laughing, and he says, "Yes." So then I go back to my singing. Then I get to thinking and I look and I say, "I'm still a little children, right?" And he says, "Yes." So that's when I woke up and I woke up with a sound, the whole voice and the whole process of what was going on and I knew it was a Sunday morning, and I knew that what I had to say was important.
Guy Kawasaki: Wow. Wow. You have any tips how people can make that happen faster or earlier?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, yeah. I would've liked to have had... It depends on your path that you're taking and what your soul needs to learn along the way. I had to learn a lot of stuff along the way before I could accept that as real. I think that it's so important for us to really learn to love ourselves. That was a hard job for me, except at home. But in school, that was a very difficult job for me. You learn the things that you have to learn and you go along, and you live as long as you need to do what you need to do.
Guy Kawasaki: Yeah. Do you have any advice for people who have kids who are dyslexic?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Please pay attention to them. Please realize that they have a different kind of learning process. In fact, it was interesting, when we started the American Holistic Medical Association, one day there were ten of us doctors sitting around a table, and we got to talking about this, and we realized that six of us were severely dyslexic.
Guy Kawasaki: Wow.
Dr Gladys McGar...: So we thought, I guess that the part of our lesson is that you have to learn in a different way. Because I don't know how I learned to read, I really don't know. But we have some early research with a friend and ex-patient of mine who were looking into that with Johns Hopkins' help and so on. But there are ways in which people can be taught. But when I was growing up, you were just the stupid one.
Guy Kawasaki: I have been to, it's called the American Dyslexic Association or something, but they have this thing where they sit down people who don't have dyslexia, and you have to read the mirror reflection of the writing, or they have samples of what it looks like to a dyslexic. And oh my God, it is impossible to read. I got to tell you, I started crying in the middle of that session because I truly understood what it's like to be dyslexic, and my experience was only ten minutes long, not a lifetime.
Dr Gladys McGar...: You come in learning the lessons that you need to learn, and that was a huge one that I needed to learn. Took me ninety-three years, it took till that time, but it came, and it came in a very sweet way.
Guy Kawasaki: Yep. Yep. Can you just take us back to what it was like being a woman entering the medical field in the forties and fifties?
Dr Gladys McGar...: I went to Women's Medical College in Philadelphia, the only women's medical college in the country. But that didn't mean that we had it easy because our professors decided that we were going to have to be tougher than the guys. So we started out with fifty students to start with as freshmen and only twenty-five of us graduated. And for me, it was difficult, because what I thought healing was all about was different from what we were being taught. It was wartime. We were being taught that our job was to kill pain and kill disease, get rid of. And the way I had watched my parents, who were both osteopaths incidentally, deal with the Indian patients was with love and caring, and it had nothing to do with getting rid of a disease or something. It was how you help that patient deal with what it is that they're dealing with, and sometimes you could get rid of it and sometimes you can't. Roosevelt never got rid of his post-polio syndrome, and yet, look what he did.
So the whole concept of what I was in the process of learning and what I was in the process of working with and trying to figure out how that fit into my way of thinking, got me all mixed up and the dean sent me to the psychiatrist twice. Because I wasn't thinking the right way. And the psychiatrist, fortunately, thought that I had a reason for thinking that way I was thinking.
But anyway, we all have our own path and we all have our own specific areas where we can get stuck, really stuck. And if you aren't looking for a way to change or for the life to lead you past that stuck place, you're not going to find it. You have to start looking for it. And if you start looking for it, you'll find it. You may have to go to a psychiatrist once or twice like I did; it's what your soul is telling you. Keep looking for the light.
And my terminology, I think we as human beings are looking for our true humanity. And I think ET was looking for true humanity when he was reaching for home, when he was saying, "Let's go home." And I also think that, now I don't know this, this is my thinking, when God created us and he gave us dominion over all the creation, we humans decided that meant domination. And so we took over and we've messed the thing up a lot. I think if we really understand what dominion is, it means take care of. So if we reclaim our true humanity as the beings that came to Earth to take care of the Earth, Mother Earth would be a lot happier than this Mother's Day if we understood that.
Guy Kawasaki: There is a fundamental difference between dominion and domination.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Absolutely.
Guy Kawasaki: I don't know if I want to go down this rat hole, but I'd like to point out that one could make the case that men have been the ones who have blown it, and maybe we should let women lead us into the next generation. Because men have clearly shown their ineptness in doing this, but I digress.
Dr Gladys McGar...: No, please, let me go there.
Guy Kawasaki: Go, Dr. Gladys.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Okay, another dream, this again was in my nineties. I woke up with a huge crash and I didn't know what it was, but I woke up and realized I was in the high Himalayas in a valley. And on the right-hand side, there was a young woman lying on the ground, just barely breathing. On the left-hand side, there was a huge man in armor and all of that in exactly the same position, hardly breathing. And the voice came to me and said, "These two energies have to stop doing this," which was beating each other up. "They have to do this," which was getting together and realizing where they belong and how this goes. And I woke up and I thought, "What's the woman doing on the man's, which is the right hand, which is the male aspect and the guy doing on the women's aspect? We're in the wrong places."
And in the process of trying to get back, all we're doing is fighting over each other and not making any progress. So I had this friend, wonderful friend, psychic in Virginia Beach, and I called her and talked to her about the dream. And she says, "I have an idea that I've been thinking about." She says, "There's a word that has come to me. It's femafestation." Because we were talking about manifestation, and she says, "But there's another word, it's femafestation, and I think we could start claiming that," and I loved that.
So now I look at it this way, manifestation is a Jacob's Ladder. You take one step, you get a degree. You buy a house. You climb the ladder of success and you are a success, or you don't, and you're not. This ladder is there. But femafestation is a spiral. You can be on the fifth rung and know what's going on in the second rung, and you try to explain that to someone who's manifesting and you get all mixed up. So just let yourself femafest, which is what pregnancy and labor and delivery is all about. The whole pregnancy is femafestation, and then we manifest with this amazing being, which then we have to learn how to deal with that whole issue too.
Guy Kawasaki: Between your license plate and femafestation, I learned two great terms today already. You're way over quota, and maybe you and I can rewrite her story instead of his story. Right?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, I love that, femastory or something.
Guy Kawasaki: So for those people who don't understand the term, could you just define for us what is holistic medicine?
Dr Gladys McGar...: When we started Holistic Medical Association, it was because the very act of what we were taught in medical school about pain and killing that we knew there was more to it than that. We were looking for the other dimension that would allow us to really deal with the love and caring that we were feeling was part of the essence of healing. And so we said, "Okay, that's the third dimension is life, the body, and the mind, but the spirit has to be brought in to healing." And so it took us two years to figure out how to spell it, because the root word was health and healing and holy. And when we got that, then we knew, "Okay, we'll spell it with an H and that people can understand whatever they understand."
But that's the whole aspect of holistic medicine, was to be able to do the work that we knew we had to do with life and love. And that combination is what holistic medicine is all about. You can take any one of the modalities that we're taught and depending on how you use them is what is holistic. It's like my oldest son is a retired orthopedic surgeon, and when he came through Phoenix, he was going down to Del Rio to start his practice. He said, "Mom, I'm real scared." He said, "I'm going to have people's lives in my hands. I don't know if I can handle that."
And I said, "Carl, if you think you're the one that does the healing, you have a right to be scared. But if you do the job that you've been trained to do, which is awesome, absolutely awesome to be an orthopedic surgeon, if you do that work with love and then you allow the patient and the physician within that patient to do the healing, you have nothing to be afraid of. Because that's your colleague, in this healing process, is that physician within that patient."
Guy Kawasaki: So would you say that conventional medicine is a part of holistic medicine?
Dr Gladys McGar...: You betcha.
Guy Kawasaki: And where do you draw the line? I read that you had two instances of cancer, and the first one you handled one way. The second one you handled another way. So when do you pick which way? Or how do you pick which way?
Dr Gladys McGar...: You have to do it to yourself at the time. What's proper at that time is not proper at the other time. It's not the modality. I was talking to one of the hospitals here and the person who I was talking to said, "It's difficult to think about how to integrate other modalities." And I said, "I don't think the modality is the problem because it depends on what the issue is and how things are going along, but it's how it's used."
If a physician comes in and says, "This is where you have to do it, this is it," and actually lays down the law about how this patient needs to deal with this particular, or whatever, then you haven't really contacted what the real problem is. The real problem, it happens to be a disease that's trying to teach you something, and it's not the real problem that you want to get rid of. The real problem is that this patient's body, or owner or whoever's doing this, is bringing this issue forward so that you can figure out how to do work with it, how you personally... It's like with my two cancers, I could work with one at one place, but completely differently. So that's why it's holistic. It's not holistic with a W. It's holistic with an H.
Guy Kawasaki: And someone listening to this, how does that person know "I'm diagnosed with cancer, I'm going to go this path or that path?" And this person is not an MD, this person...
Dr Gladys McGar...: No.
Guy Kawasaki: How do you decide?
Dr Gladys McGar...: You listen to what your soul's telling you. Listen to your dreams. Talk to people who have something else to say besides what you're hearing. Read about it. Do some research. Look for the light. You're never going to see the light if you're looking in the darkness. And so if you have a dark spot, which being diagnosed with a disease is a dark spot, and if you're looking at the dark side of the whole thing, and that's all you're being told and that's all you're understanding, you're not going to find the light.
But understand that the sun always comes up. It always comes up. If you start looking, it will. If you don't, you're not going to see it. You're not even going to understand it... When a holistic physician who has the answer and is giving and telling you the whole process is telling you that, and that's not what you're looking for, you're not going to hear it.
Guy Kawasaki: A real tactical question: so during the pandemic and with your children and grandchildren, would you still tell them to mask? Would you tell them to get MR? Would you get the COVID vaccination? Or are you supposed to-
Dr Gladys McGar...: You betcha.
Guy Kawasaki: ...listen to your soul in those kind of questions?
Dr Gladys McGar...: You betcha. I do all those things. And I think it's funny, the masking, we've been masking women since the beginning of time. It's just when the men got masked it became horrible. Isn't that the truth?
Guy Kawasaki: Yeah.
Dr Gladys McGar...: I mean, look at how we've covered women up through the ages. All you saw was the eyes. I didn't think it was a bit bad.
Guy Kawasaki: Okay, so just to be perfectly clear because I have a responsibility to people listening to this, so you did mask up, you-
Dr Gladys McGar...: I did.
Guy Kawasaki: Your grandchildren and great-grandchildren got MMRs.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Absolutely. I don't... I'll back up. I disagree about the timing of MMRs and so on, to vaccinate a baby just as they're born, I think is wrong. I think we let the baby be born and get its immune system going and that whole process going, and then vaccinate when it's necessary. I was saved from smallpox because I was vaccinated, and my mother and father just about died. But it's something that if I make a statement that's an absolute, I'll get up and I'll walk away. Because aside from life and love and what I call the five Ls, there are no absolutes in my world. You can't have six kids and have absolutes for one thing.
Guy Kawasaki: I have four kids, and I agree.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Aren't they wonderful? They're all so different. And...
Guy Kawasaki: We have two sons, biologically, and then we have adopted two, and they are four completely different people.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, yes.
Guy Kawasaki: And so-
Dr Gladys McGar...: And if you try to treat one like the other, you're in trouble.
Guy Kawasaki: Yeah. It's basically random.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yeah, it is. You learn flexibility.
Guy Kawasaki: That's a mild understatement. Yes. Yes. I enjoyed reading your book, and I would-
Dr Gladys McGar...: Thank you.
Guy Kawasaki: ...love for you to explain your definition of a well-lived life.
Dr Gladys McGar...: I think when we first started talking about the title, I didn't like the title, until our publisher said to me, "We're not talking about you, we're talking about the person that's reading the book." So that's why I like the title. It's because if I able to give some answers to some people, who can take those and put them into their life and help with their life so it becomes a well-lived life, then I've done what I've wanted to do with this book.
Guy Kawasaki: And in the Dr. Gladys Hall of Fame of examples of well-lived lives... Wait, let me say it again. In the Dr. Gladys Hall of Fame of well-lived lives, who's in that hall of fame that people might recognize?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, I have so many patients that are in that, but people wouldn't recognize. Bobby Wolfe was a patient of mine for over fifty years, and she lived with one-quarter of one kidney. Now, how do you do that? None of us understood it, but she did. And she would take what we offered her and do it her way. It was the most amazing thing to watch.
Evelyn Horrell is a person who is now in Mexico, and she had a ruptured esophagus, and I'd been working with her for some time. She decided on her own, while she's getting IV blood and all of this, that she's sealing this by herself. She doesn't need surgery, and she's going to do it. She had an aunt and a cousin who had the same defect and they had the surgery done. They're both dead. She's living in Mexico now with a whole community that understands what she's doing and working with.
Now, these people are people who understand the physician within them in a way that they could really say to their body, "Okay, let's see. How are we going to do this?" And then do it. I mean, that's why it's a secret. Nobody wants to really say it out loud, but then when you do start saying it out loud and you begin to listen to yourself, what you are saying, you take a deep breath and you go on and do it.
Guy Kawasaki: Okay. Have you heard of the Japanese concept called Ikigai?
Dr Gladys McGar...: No, but I'd like to.
Guy Kawasaki: Okay. So if I may be so bold, I will tell you that Ikigai is the equivalent of what you call juice. So it's this reason for getting up every day, the reason for living, your guiding light, your passion, all that good stuff. And I just want to confirm your definition of the word juice.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yeah, it's what makes you sing. It's love. It's life and love together. It's the light on the path. I look at it as sort of, we all have our path that we have to walk, and we have a little flashlight, and we can go as far as that light takes us. It's the ability to be looking for the next step and the next step and the next step with the light that is shining and available to us. But it won't happen if you're not looking. It's a whole idea that we have this person within us that if our minds and our bodies can get in touch with that person, we're on a good trip.
And that's the juice. That's where you see it. That's where you're working in a... I don't care which word you use, femafesting or manifesting or whatever you're doing, you know what it is that you're doing because it makes your heart sing.
Guy Kawasaki: I don't want to create a false dichotomy, so you can say all of the above, but do people have to search for their juice and one lucky day you find it? Or is it more like an acorn that you plant and you wait and you take care of and you nurture, and one day it's a mighty oak? So how do you get your juice?
Dr Gladys McGar...: It could be an acorn if you like the process of nurturing something. Our children are acorns. We nurture them, and all of a sudden, this juice pops up in amazing ways. This son of mine that's here, when he was seven, he came in and he says to me, "I wish Jesus was here." And I said, "I do too, but why you?" And he says, "Because I've got questions." And I said, "Try me, maybe I can help you." He says, "You don't have any answers." And I said, "Just try me." So he says, "Okay, how can God be if he never got started?"
And I said, "Oh, yes." I said, "Maybe it's like a circle. It has no beginning." He says, "I knew you..." And he goes running off, but it's that kind of juice that pops up unexpectedly. And another son of mine, who was four, and he says, "Mama, I know something." And I say, "what's that, Bobby?" "If I make a friend and he makes a friend and he makes a friend, it's going to go all around the world and come back to me." He's a psychologist, of course. It's that listening and looking for that thing that really grabs you. I remember those because those were things like, they just woke me up. The acorn popped.
Guy Kawasaki: Now, your acorn popped very young, but there are many people who discover their juice later in life. So what's your advice? There are some people who think, "Oh my God, I'm twenty. I haven't found my passion, my Ikigai, my juice."
Dr Gladys McGar...: But you're right on. The only thing I can tell you is just keep looking for it because it will show up. If you're looking, it'll show up. And it may take time. I found my voice when I was at ninety-three, but I was looking for it.
Guy Kawasaki: And you say in your book that the search for your juice is as valuable as finding it. Why is that?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Because if you haven't found it, you're stuck. And if you're stuck, then your life is trying to get past that stuckness. And in the process of trying to get past the stuckness can get stuck more. But if you can get the message to yourself that there is something to live for, that you are a piece in a jigsaw puzzle, which no one else is, and if you want to complete that... If you've ever made a jigsaw puzzle and the last piece is missing, it drives you crazy. It's the importance of knowing the importance of your place, and your place is just where you are, no matter where that is, because you are that jigsaw piece that no one else can put in your place. It's not possible.
Guy Kawasaki: At the other end of the spectrum you talk about, and I don't know the right pronunciation for this, the Hindustani phrase... If that's close enough.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yeah.
Guy Kawasaki: So can you, two things, first, explain that concept, and then you have a very specific procedure for executing it. So can you just show us in the video-
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yes.
Guy Kawasaki: ...how you do that?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yes. If you've got something that you're stuck on and you recognize it, you've looked in and you recognize it, look for what it is that you've recognized and take it in your fist. Hold it tightly in your fist and hold your arm up in the air, and then open your fists and let that out like petals and move your hand down just and back and let it go. I used the word... because my mother used that, and it means it doesn't matter.
When you get to the point where you can actually conjure up this thing that you have gotten stuck on, for me, it was my voice didn't matter, and yet I was using my voice all the time but it didn't matter, but when I finally got to the point where I could really do that and take that voice and let it go... it just doesn't matter. And it's gone. It's a Tai Chi movement. I have a friend who's a Tai Chi teacher, and she's making Tai Chi movements out of these six secrets. Because moving the body with the mind and the spirit, that's why I have a tricycle, it gets it a tricycle moving.
Guy Kawasaki: And you're biking around Scottsdale?
Dr Gladys McGar...: No, in my backyard. Nobody wants to see me biking around Scottsdale.
Guy Kawasaki: I would.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Thank you.
Guy Kawasaki: So one of the concepts in your book is that you should come up with this plan for your next ten years. And I'd like to know what's your plan for the next ten years?
Dr Gladys McGar...: A village for living medicine. A village for living medicine, where people who live there have the awareness and the desire to live a life that is full of love and juice and ability to understand other people. And where you can begin to use your juice in ways that are glory hallelujah.
Guy Kawasaki: With your children and grandchildren, I suspect you use electronic means to communicate with them.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, yeah. I don't do it very well, but I have people who help me.
Guy Kawasaki: And so do you believe net-net that you know this technology and social media, does it lead to isolation or does it lead to community?
Dr Gladys McGar...: It depends. See, I have a theory that one of the reasons that these young men are killing people, school children and all, is because they really don't know anything about death. Or I assume that these young people have been watching TV and they've seen a person die, but he comes back tomorrow, and then he comes back the next day and the next day. So he is not dead. So what's death all about anyway? And if they have not experienced a pet that has died or somebody in their family where they have actually experienced death, they don't know what it is.
And it's like trying to tell a person who has been born blind about what the color green is. If you haven't experienced something, you simply don't know what it is. And so I think that if we had dogs in the classroom, guardian dogs, those dogs would love the kids in the classroom. The kids who don't know anything about love would find out because the dog knows that if the child is afraid, the dog won't go near. It would start a whole new profession.
A dog that is bred to be hypoallergenic and the trainer has to be trained, the parents have to understand, it's a whole new profession. But I think instead of putting guns in the teacher's hands, if we put a dog, a guardian dog in the classroom, we could do a lot of good. And people who really don't know about love would experience it because dogs, they don't care... they'll wait, like the acorn, they'll wait until you're ready to touch them.
Guy Kawasaki: Now, just to be perfectly clear, you're not suggesting putting dogs in a classroom as security measure, right? It has nothing to do with giving teachers guns.
Dr Gladys McGar...: No.
Guy Kawasaki: This is as an expression of love.
Dr Gladys McGar...: Yes. It's letting children know that we're not... what was the word that I used before? That we take care of things. We're humans. Our human compassion should be including love at every age and every place. And so if a child comes from a place in their life where they don't know about love, how are they going to find out if there isn't a place where it's manifested? But the dog will get manifested. And in the process of doing that becomes a guardian dog, because dogs take care of their people.
Guy Kawasaki: No pun intended, but I think many politicians, if they were to embrace this idea, it would, no pun intended, manifest itself as guard dogs, instead of guns, as opposed to what you just described.
Dr Gladys McGar...: They can do with it what they want to. We have therapy dogs. There are all kinds of professions that use dogs, and it depends, again, like a modality, why are you using it?
Guy Kawasaki: Madisun, in particular, is curious about this. So what does a typical day look like for you?
Dr Gladys McGar...: I wake up about six o'clock and I have prunes and Raisin Bran for breakfast and a good cup of coffee. And then I do what I have to do during the day. My bedroom is upstairs, so I go up and downstairs during the day. And my goal is, I don't always attain it, but my goal is to walk 3,800 steps a day. And I record it on my cell phone so that I don't cheat and stuff.
Guy Kawasaki: But I read you are now at 3,900 a day. You're an overachiever.
Dr Gladys McGar...: I'm working up towards it. I started at 1,500, but I'm working up towards it.
Guy Kawasaki: And are you seeing patients still?
Dr Gladys McGar...: I don't have a license to see patients, but they didn't tell me I had to stop talking, so I can consult.
Guy Kawasaki: This is an off-the-wall and my last question, but do you want to be immortal?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, I think we all are immortal. I think it's not something of what I want to be. It will be whatever it will be, and whatever will be life, and life goes on.
Guy Kawasaki: Has your family or anybody shown you these recent manifestations of artificial intelligence?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, my. I think my next book has to be something like that. I've had things manifest that have no business of manifesting. All of a sudden, they show up at times when they're needed.
Guy Kawasaki: I think you should write a book called Femafest Destiny.
Dr Gladys McGar...: What a great title.
Guy Kawasaki: Just put me in the acknowledgments for coming up with the title. Okay? That's all I ask. Okay.
Dr Gladys McGar...: All right.
Guy Kawasaki: My last question for you. In this post overturn of Roe versus Wade, what do you think are the top priorities for women's healthcare?
Dr Gladys McGar...: Oh, I so believe in the women's rights to have what they're going to do with their pregnancies and they can communicate with their baby and work it out. And I've got a whole process that I have worked with patients and other physicians, who are OB/GYN and people worked with me too on this. And it's not killing anything. It's a love choice. Because the baby can withdraw if they need to. That's my answer to it. It's love for the baby that allows you to make the choice and it has nothing to do with killing.
Guy Kawasaki: And it has nothing to do with a male politician's decision either.
Dr Gladys McGar...: No. No. Oh, no.
Guy Kawasaki: Thanks for tuning into this episode with Dr. Gladys McGarey. She's been transforming the way we think about healthcare for over sixty years. We hope you enjoyed learning about her groundbreaking work and mission to transform healthcare through compassionate whole-person care. Don't forget to check out her latest book, The Well-Lived Life: A 102-Year-Old Doctor's Six Secrets to Health and Happiness at Every Age.
I'm Guy Kawasaki, this is Remarkable People. I'm a mere sixty-eight years old. Joining me on the Remarkable team, Peg Fitzpatrick, Jeff Sieh, Shannon Hernandez, Alexis Nishimura, Luis Magana, and Madisun Nuismer, the Remarkable People team, trying to make you remarkable and extend your lifespan. I'm Guy Kawasaki. See you next time. Mahalo and Aloha.