I liked Penelope Trunk’s interview so much that I asked her for more material. Here’s her list of the nine biggest workplace myths:
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You’ll be happier if you have a job you like.
The correlation between your happiness and your job is overrated. The most important factors, by far, are your optimism levels and your personal relationships. If you are a pessimist, a great job can’t overcome that. (Think of the jerks at the top.) And if you have great friends and family, you can probably be happy even if you hate your job (imagine a garbage collector who’s in love).
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Job-hopping will hurt you.
Job hopping is one of the best ways to maintain passion and personal growth in your careers. And here’s some good news for hoppers: Most people will have eight jobs between the time they are eighteen and thirty. This means most young workers are job hopping. So hiring managers have no choice but to hire job hoppers. Ride this wave and try a lot of jobs out yourself.
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The glass ceiling still exists.
The glass ceiling is over, not because people crashed through, but because people are not looking up. Life above the glass ceiling is 100-hour weeks, working for someone else, and no time for friends and family. And it’s not only women who are saying no to the ladder up: Men are as well. People want to customize success for themselves, not climb someone else rungs. So if no one is climbing to the top, the glass ceiling isn’t keeping anyone down.
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Office politics is about backstabbing.
The people who are most effective at office politics are people who are genuinely nice. Office politics is about helping people to get what they want. This means you have to take the time to figure out what someone cares about, and then think about how you can help him or her to get it. You need to always have your ears open for when you can help. If you do this, you don’t have to strong arm people or manipulate them. Your authentic caring will inspire people to help you when you need it.
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Do good work, and you’ll do fine.
For one thing, no one knows what the heck you’re doing in your cube if you’re not telling them. So when you do good work, let people know. It is not crazy to toot your own horn–it’s crazy to think someone will do it for you. Also, if you do good work but you’re a jerk, people will judge your work to be sub par. So you could say that good work really only matters if your co-workers enjoy hearing about it from you.
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You need a good resume.
Only ten percent of jobs come from sending a blind resume. Most people get jobs by leveraging their network. Once you have a connection, the person looks at your resume to make sure there are no red flags. So you need a competent resume and an excellent network. This means you should stop stressing about which verb to use on the second line of your third job. Go talk to someone instead.
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People with good networks are good at networking.
Just be nice, take genuine interest in the people you meet, and keep in touch with people you like. This will create a group of people who are invested in helping you because they know you and appreciate you. Use LinkedIn to leverage those peoples’ networks, and you just got yourself a very strong network by simply hanging out with the people you like.
- Work hard and good things will come.
Everyone can put in a seventy-hour week. It doesn’t mean you’re doing good work. So here’s an idea: Make sure you’re not the hardest worker. Take a long lunch. Get all your work done early. Grand thinking requires space, flexibility and time. So let people see you staring at the wall. They’ll know you’re a person with big ideas and taking time to think makes you more valuable.
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Create the shiny brand of you!
There is no magic formula to having a great career except to be you. Really you. Know who you are and have the humility to understand that self-knowledge is a never-ending journey. Figure out how to do what you love, and you’ll be great at it. Offer your true, good-natured self to other people and you’ll have a great network. Those who stand out as leaders have a notable authenticity that enables them to make genuinely meaningful connections with a wide range of people. Authenticity is a tool for changing the world by doing good.
Myth #6: You need a good resume.
In the spirit of talking about Guy and his new project at Truemors I went back to his blog, half expecting an update on the project. Instead I found an interview with Penelope Trunk, author of Brazen Careerist. Typically I’m
I LIKE it! From the author of a book titled “Brazen Careerist” the entrepreneur in me feared the worst reading round 2. But she’s good. And number six is dead on (see Trackback).
That said, I take exception with the first point. I agree that pay won’t make you happy (we know empirically that there are diminishing returns to scale after a threshold of some $40,000).
But barring compensation, what can be said for a life spent in a setting that’s misaligned with his or her skills/talents/abilities?
I agree that optimism is important in a work setting. That it’s the ultimate predictor of happiness, even.
But for how long will you stay optimistic in a setting you don’t like? Or in one you absolutely hate?
Restated, how can we conclude that someone is happy because he or she is generally optimistic… when there’s a good chance that person is optimistic because s/he found satisfying work? Almost sounds like a question of correlation v. causation.
And it’s only one thought. Good interview.
Thank you for such a great post. Great resource for discussion. Again, another reason to keep reading your blog.
On what Brian said, but how did you get there, if you do not like the setting in which you work? The mistake was committed long before you arrived there, I think.
Cheers,
Gabriel
Bucharest
Romania
Great points, these. I can identify with most of the points mentioned by Penelope. You could have perhaps avoided the not-so-subtle push for LinkedIn in point 7. And point 4 does sound a bit oh-so-goody, don’t you think?
Very good summary! I’ve come to some of the ideas myself but when you read it you realize how logical it is.
I would agree with Brian that the first point could be restated. Maybe a good job won’t make you happy but a bad one can bring you to suffering for sure.
This is a great post. Answers six through nine are right on point. I just landed a job and all those things were a factor. I read this blog and The Brazen Careerist all the time.
http://accidentalslacker.wordpress.com/
Good points, although I would not use garbage collectors as an example of people who are likely to hate their job (point 1). There is a lot of workplace satisfaction to be had from seeing the immediate positive effect of your hard work. Moreover, knowing that the very fabric of civil society would crumble if you and your colleagues went fishing for a couple of days is certainly not detrimental to how good you feel about work. You can’t say that about e.g. grad school. :-)
Great post Guy!
I have many friends who are graduating college and are clueless about the realities of the workplace. I know it takes some time, and like most, we all learn from our mistakes when make the transition from college to career. I just wish some of the undergrad business schools out there would read your posts and incorporate these themes into their teachings, instead of just showing a student how to write corporate memo.
I would be curious to know how many professors out there read Guy’s business lessons.
Guy Kawasaki interviews Brazen Careerist Penelope Trunk
I’m convinced that EVERYONE IS IN TRANSITION. It doesn’t matter who you are, what you do, where you live or what stage of life you are in, you are in transition from what you once were to what you will
Great interview Guy. You are developing a very nice set of skills as the online Oprah of business books. It’s a good thing there are about 50,000 of them written every year!
I think that all of what she has said in this and the previous post fall under #9 – build your personal brand. (Krishna De has a great blog about personal branding by the way.) I tell people that they need to think of their career as a business. If you work for someone else chances are that you are an at-will employee, but in a sense you are an independent contractor. You are trading your time, skills, and knowledge for pay. As long as you do something of value you get to stay.
Another way to look at it is this: Your business is what you are responsible for. Is there anything that you are more responsible for than your own life? So why would you put great effort into managing a business and not more into managing your life (including career)?
So be a Modern Magellan, a Thomas Edison, or a Steve Jobs. Go explore, create and enjoy but do not just sail around aimlessly.
Hi Guy:
Great Posts! Very pertinent thoughts. I have discussed about the networking and other stuffs in my personal blog at http://www.rajeshshakya.com. Please take a look.
Rajesh Shakya
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The Nine Biggest Myths of the Workplace
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Hi Guy,
I agree with this, but on the other hand I also have to admit, that it isn’t easy to find a job with this approach in East Europe… well hope we’re pioneering a new approach
Enjoyed most of the points, however that bit about the glass ceiling…
Hhhmmm…so if we ignore the glass ceiling,
it isn’t really there?
I’ve been involved with exec discussions
about assigning women high profile projects.
If the woman is young and newly married,
the odds of her getting that project
greatly decreases.
Ugly but them’s the facts.
There was some research that stated that people ‘happy’ with their jobs are those who take ownership in it.
There was this anecdote that Dr. Udai Pareek (on e of India’s foremost consultants shared) about a similar research he was doing for a hospital. He found that the gatekeeper’s ownership scores were much higher and correlated with high pride he took in his job. These were higher than even the doctors’ and nurses’ scores. On being asked why he took so much pride in his work, he said “If I don’t regulate the visitors’ times, the patients won’t get well”.
So maybe it’s not just money or relationship that guarantee happiness..but maybe something more intrinsic to oneself and not in the role/job
There is one last myth that I think she should have mentioned: Some jobs can destroy your soul. I have come across a blog about drawings and other things by people trapped in the wrong job, and I have found there is still hope for myself. Just today there is a wonderful entry by a receptionist in some nursing home. Really inspiring and full of hope…
Utter bollocks. Grooming and resume formatting keeps people from getting hired? Sounds like incompetent and shallow people made responsible for hiring are who keeps people from getting hired.
That’s just silly. Two words: Dr. Winter.
Job hopping sucks when you’re forced to jump.
I’d rather have an ER surgeon working hard than staring at the wall while I bleed to death. Having big ideas is overrated. It’s how you execute the ideas you have that affects your organizational worth.
That statement contradicts everything she wrote afterward. She describes a magic formula, and “being you” apparently means “be the future ‘you’ (i.e., someone else), not the ‘you’ you are now.”
Friendly, happy-go-lucky words and phrases that sound deep and spiritual might sell books, but they’re not a platform for success. One word: Trump. Nice guys finish last.
Another great list from Penelope. Thanks for posting!
Cyrus
http://blog.uible.com
Affirmation everywhere
I’m a big fan of affirmation–those indicators that keep reinforcing that you’re doing, being, thinking correctly–and a firm believe in synchronicity. Once something comes to your attention, you see it everywhere. Right up there with karma, God’s plan…
Tack så mycket.
I fight against #2 “Job Hopping will hurt you” all the time. I can’t even count how many times I’ve heard a friend tell me that they weren’t going to apply for a better job that they’d heard about because they hadn’t been in their current job long enough. What a crock.
-jcr
Nice list except for the fact that there’s a major flaw in its structure–the last point seems to be a sincere point, i.e., it is advice that she believes in, it’s not a myth she’s trying to dispel. She should of written it to be a myth to bust, e.g., “Conform to the culture of your employer.” I’m surprised that an experienced writer would make this kind of mistake. Or, maybe I’m mistaken and it is a myth? In that case, she should have constructed it like the other points, and shown why it is a myth.
Effective Use of Office Politics
Guy gleans some simple truths from Penelope Trunk. Need to influence the organization on …
Guy,
Thank you sincerely for recommending this book and also for the earlier interview with Penelope. I’ve already ordered my copy, and I’m very much looking forward to learning from Penelope’s experience and insight.
Keep the recommendations coming!
Cheers,
Tung
Myth 4. Office politics is about backstabbing.
I think the danger of telling new graduates that this is a myth is that they might be surprised if they end up working in a place where people _are_ stabbing each other in the back!
I agree with Penelope’s approach to office politics but to say it’s not about backstabbing might be a bit misleading.. to some people it is about backstabbing..
Myth 6. You need a good resume.
I wonder where Penelope got the 10% figure here and if it’s 10% of college graduates or 10% of the workforce in general? I can’t imagine the average college graduate having a sufficient network to generate job opportunities for them. Of my circle of college friends (out of college a few years now..) only one was so good at networking that he often got offered jobs by friends. The rest of us have had to apply for jobs and that means a good cover letter and a good CV..
If you can network and find ways to meet the people who are in a position to hire (or even recommend you) that’s fine, but I think most college graduates aren’t in that position.
Myth 8. Work hard and good things will come.
This again depends on the mindset of the people making decisions in your company. If your boss sees you staring at the wall or brainstorming by yourself will he think “There’s a great strategic mind!” or will he think “What am I paying that person for?” You do have to manage perception in your workplace.. your bosses don’t always (or even usually?) have 21st century attitudes to work, even if you do.
Maybe this advice is more applicable in American workplaces and slightly less applicable in other cultures? (i.e. are American managers and senior managers more “with it” ?)
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Admittedly I have taken a few days off from writing in order to enjoy a brief time with family, but today I am reading my favorite blogs to begin shaking the hangover effects and return to some Cabernet Logic. Here
9 excellent points we should all use in life.
Thanks!
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Power can be taken, but not given
life should be so much easyer than what it is today. if people would just not be so much egoist about material issues in life, we wouldn’t have to live a makebelieve show, but rather just do what has to be done, without worries. i vision a future where we can be without having to worrie about how good or bad our resumes are. i know, utopist, but it makes me happy to think that way. just imagine…
She is right on every count.
I adore Penelope but had to take her on for point #1, since, while I agree that there are many factors that influence happiness on the job, if you have a job that is fundamentally not suited to you, unhappiness will soon follow.
“Pamela Slim vs. Penelope Trunk Smackdown” Post here:
http://tinyurl.com/35jvbt
Guy- this is a GREAT READ. I like the one where you give permission to stare at the wall. I am so idea oriented, that you are right, it takes time to get those flowing.
Thanks for the confirmation!
Great materials. I will use the ideas.
Paul
Children Make Every Shop Important
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1. i am a perfectionist .. quite naturally a pessimist .. anr happiness in work is seldom a rule for happiness in life . i was ever sad in work but happy with my wife ..
2. if hopping hurt .. not-hopping would hurt too .. a penniless looser is not what your home manager would want .. and once u are penniless a lot of negative things get in mind .. if only recruiters could try to understand them
3. couldnt quite understand that
4. o really ??
5. Yeah .. but mostly theres no one to listen to … atleast in my company
6. I think, this is true
7. He he .. :) i Use orkut ..
8. Hummmmm,, ill try it
9. huh ??????
Great Post !! I can for sure relate to the importance of the thoughts and I’d like to thank you for sharing this work !!
Keep it coming !!
I have found more and more in my career that still waters run deep. More and more I am impressed with the quietest person in the room, not the one blabbing the entire time. When I see people staring at the wall I automatically assume they are trying to solve a very complex problem.
Also, remember that not everyone wants or needs a ‘career’.
It is possible to be happy working 9-5 even as a simple check-out clerk for your entire life, if you are suited for the job.
There are a lot of people who are content in their job. So don’t be worried if you like your job but aren’t doing any of the things in this book.
I’m not saying the book is bad, just that it’s not for everyone.
I have to disagree with #6, “You need a good resume.”
The single best job book I ever read was one on how to write a resume.
The three jobs I have won in the last 10 years were won by my resume, with the interviews used to confirm what my resume already said.
My first IT job was won with one face to face interview and a phone interview with one other person and the hiring manager.
For my second IT job, I asked the hiring manager, after two weeks and a dozen interviews, what sold him on me, and he said it was my resume.
For my most recent job, I found out about the opportunity through my personal network, but the reason the network connection worked is my resume communicated what I had to offer. “You are exactly what we are looking for” is what I was told. In this final case, I had one face to face informal interview, the three other interviews were by phone, and I never had to put on a suit. That rarely happens with this company, a very large IT vendor.
The fact is, most people write crappy resumes. You have to write a resume that engages the reader, and communicates value.
I also disagree with #8, “Work hard and good things will come.”
Busting my ass led to getting significant raises, stock options, being pushed for management, and being protected from layoffs.
Managers value competence and production. Exceeding expectations has value for managers.
I can honestly say at my last job, I had reached the point of being almost unfireable and nearly impervious to being laid off. I had VPs who were not in my management chain telling me there was no way the company would lay me off.
Despite that I wanted to leave, and I contacted the director from a former role who was now a VP of sales at another company, and nearly instantly I found an interview with his company, not in his division. He remembered my hard work.
Yes, working hard, producing, and making your boss’ job easy pays off, especially as those people move into other roles.
While in general I agree with most of Penelope’s points, and overall I agree with the theme. It is far more important to have your personality in tune with strong principles, than to look good on paper and in person. Eventually all frauds are discovered for what they are in the workplace. Most of us spend most of our waking time there, people get to know the real you by osmosis if nothing else.
A couple points on the subject however, I will have to disagree with from personal experience.
#6: Resumes. The good vs. great resume is an argument that is too generic. In extremely competitive landscapes, high level programming, or a saturated job market with a rising unemployment index, where hiring managers have options, a resume can make or break you. I have had as many as fifty good resumes on my desk at a time for a sales role, and only called five or six to screen. Might I have missed someone? Perhaps, but I hire for sales, and persuasive writing skills are a must. If you can not compel me to take interest in a tool designed to sell yourself, especially when I am looking, how will you sell my product?
#1: I agree, however back to the point of where I spend most of my day. I have a career, not a job. If I can not work within the parameters of what I excel at, I have to realign my priorities and find another job. A great opportunity empowers me, and aids in my ability to thrive as a person. Yes I can be happy, whether I am in a job I love, or like now in a job I tolerate for the education(Currently in ERP systems integration, so unique, but not my favorite). I, however, am fortunate, and have the option to take one of many many opportunities, and have to examine my options on a regular basis.
Guy, again a great read, and always good to hear from smart people. The subjective is always a good subject for debate.
Best,
Karl Goldfield
Coaching sales champions
http://karlgoldfield.blogspot.com
I have lived the Nine Biggest Myths of the Workplace for the past 52 years! My resume is ecclectic (although there is a thread and theme). In my past job that lasted two years, I was hired to overturn a tired and lagging company. I was almost there. But, the board got antsy. As a result, my boss eliminated me so that he could move in and save himself. He did acknowledge that I worked hard trying. But look where it got me! That’s not what I wanted to hear with two teenagers preparing for college. In any event, I’m much better off, better experienced, and much sought after. I have a terrific network of colleagues that pull together for me.
I have learned my lesson on working for small-run, family-run, “play-to-not-lose-and-not-play-to-win” companies. I don’t think that there is a non-dysfunctional company out there.
This reminds me of a book I just read Ford and The American Dream by Clifton Lambreth Check out the new Ford book at www.thefordbook.com