Venture capitalists are simple people: we’ve either decided to invest, and we are convincing ourselves that our gut is right (aka, “due diligence”) or there’s not a chance in hell. While we may be simple, we’re not necessarily forthcoming, so if you think it’s hard to get a “yes” out of venture capitalist, you should try to get a conclusive “no.”
This is because there’s no upside to communicating a negative decision. Entrepreneurs will simply hate us sooner–instead the game is to string along entrepreneurs in case something miraculous happens to make them look better. (An example of a miracle would be Boeing approving a $5 million purchase order.)
Alas, entrepreneurs are also simple people: If they don’t hear a conclusive “no,” they assume the answer is yes. This is an example of the kind of breakdown of communication between venture capitalists and entrepreneurs that causes much pain and frustration for entrepreneurs.
To foster greater understanding among the two groups, here is an exposé of the top ten lies of venture capitalists.
- “I liked your company, but my partners didn’t.” In other words, “no.” What the sponsor is trying to get the entrepreneur to believe is that he’s the good guy, the smart guy, the guy who gets it; the “others” didn’t, so don’t blame him. This is a cop out; it’s not the other partners didn’t like the deal as much as the sponsor wasn’t a true believer. A true believer would get it done.
- “If you get a lead, we will follow.” In other words, “no.” As the old Japanese say, “If your aunt had balls, she’d be your uncle.” Well, she doesn’t have balls, so it doesn’t matter. The venture capitalist is saying, “ We don’t really believe, but if you can get Sequoia to lead, we’ll jump on the pile.” In other words, once the entrepreneur doesn’t need the money, the venture capitalist would be happy to give him some more–this is like saying, “Once you’ve stopped Larry Csonka cold, we’ll help you tackle him.” What entrepreneurs want to hear is, “If you can’t get a lead, we will.” That’s a believer.
- “Show us some traction, and we’ll invest.” In other words, “no.” This lie translates to “I don’t believe your story, but if you can prove it by achieving significant revenue, then you might convince me. However, I don’t want to tell you ‘no’ because I might be wrong and by golly you may sign up a Fortune 500 customer and then I’d look like a total orifice.”
- “We love to co-invest with other venture capitalists.” Like the sun rising and Canadians playing hockey, you can depend on the greed of venture capitalists. Greed in this business translates to “If this is a good deal, I want it all.” What entrepreneurs want to hear is, “We want the whole round. We don’t want any other investors.” Then it’s the entrepreneur’s job to convince them why other investors can make the pie bigger as opposed to re-configuring the slices.
- “We’re investing in your team.” This is an incomplete statement. While it’s true that they are investing in the team, entrepreneurs are hearing, “We won’t fire you–why would we fire you if we invested because of you?” That’s not what the venture capitalist is saying at all. What she is saying is, “We’re investing in your team as long as things are going well, but if they go bad we will fire your ass because no one is indispensable.”
- “I have lots of bandwidth to dedicate to your company.” Maybe the venture capitalist is talking about the T3 line into his office, but he’s not talking about his personal calendar because he’s already on ten boards. Counting board meetings, an entrepreneur should assume that a venture capitalist will spend between five to ten hours a month on a company. That’s it. Deal with it. And make board meetings short!
- “This is a vanilla term sheet.” There is no such thing as a vanilla term sheet. Do you think corporate finance attorneys are paid $400/hour to push out vanilla term sheets? If entrepreneurs insist on using a flavor of ice cream to describe term sheets, the only flavor that works is Rocky Road. This is why they need their own $400/hour attorney too–as opposed to Uncle Joe the divorce lawyer.
- “We can open up doors for you at our client companies.” This is a double whammy of lie. First, a venture capitalist can’t always open up doors at client companies. Frankly, he might be hated by the client company. The worst thing in the world may be a referral from him. Second, even if the venture capitalist can open the door, entrepreneurs can’t seriously expect the company to commit to your product–that is, something that isn’t much more than a slick (10/20/30) PowerPoint presentation.
- “We like early-stage investing.” Venture capitalists fantasize about putting $1 million into a $2 million pre-money company and end up owning 33% of the next Google. That’s early stage investing. Do you know why we all know about Google’s amazing return on investment? The same reason we all know about Michael Jordan: Googles and Michael Jordans hardly ever happen. If they were common, no one would write about them. If you scratch beneath the surface, venture capitalists want to invest in proven teams (eg., the founders of Cisco) with proven technology (eg., the basis of a Nobel Prize) in a proven market (eg., ecommerce). We are remarkably risk averse considering it’s not even our money.
- I’m at a Starbucks in Hawaii writing this blog. I’ve been at it for ninety minutes. I don’t have my charger with me. My PowerBook is out of gas. You’re going to have to be happy with the top nine lies of venture capitalists until “Dear God” ships the PowerBook Vaio.
Written at: Starbucks Ward Center, Honolulu, Hawaii.
#2: Italian version: “If my grampa had six balls, he’d be a pinball”.
Here’s a good #10: “We bring a lot more than money to the table.” Still waiting for the VC who bring’s just money to the table.
Hi Guy,
Actually, although the other points are certail true, #9 is the crux of the biscuit. VCs will only invest in people they know. The number of VC investments in truely first-time entrepreneurs can probaby be counted on less than 1 hand.
Whats worse is VCs often invest money in firms where the founders do not need the VC cash – the poster child for this is Dean Kaman and the Seque. Kleiner & Co. put ~37MM into a project that could have been funded with the pocket change of its inventor/founder who is himself a billionaire. What makes this even more annoying is that any 10 year old could see that the product that was doomed from the start because of liability concerns — a 200+ lb seque clocking some granny is a liability concern for every municipality on the country, and IN FACT the Insurance Industry Association has refused all but limited liability insurance for US towns and cities stating that the danger of the seque outwieghs any benefits it could have.
How many actual innovations could have been funded with the money wasted by Kliener on the Seque? We’ll never know becuase the VC industry isn’t actually interested in innovation, rather they want sure-things. If you want a an investment that’s a sure thing get a pass-book savings account or buy a T-Bill. The operative word in “Venture Capital” is “venture.”
Now, thanks to their greed, fear, duplicity and short sightedness, China, India and others are replacing the US as world innovators.
Oh, well.
This is where a sales technique called an up-front contract is very useful. It’s not just VCs who hate to say “no.” *Everyone* doesn’hates it. If you make it easier, you’ll get to end the of the cycle sooner and with less stress.
http://www.askderekscruggs.com/slow-turndowns-bad-up-front-contract.html
http://www.askderekscruggs.com/up-front-contracts.html
In most things in life, “I don’t know” means NO.
I think #10 was lie #10.
How about, “I’m not going to waste your time and I’ll give you an answer quickly”…North of the 49th, this is a common criticism of the VC community – VCs themselves frequently admit to.
Mea culpa: If St. Peter is an entrepreneur, I will see you in in Singapore Airlines first class heaven. If, however, he turns out to be a VC, we are going to be seated in coach.
I’m sure there are many exceptional VCs who don’t spread these lies. At least you didn’t write: all cretans are liars, all VCs are cretans, ergo …
Thanks for helping us know what to watch out for. At least we can know an entrepreneur’s VC in the absence of these lies.
Your blog has come just in time. Let the good times keep rolling Guy.
Lie #11: There are ten lies.
I wrote a short essay about this last year: please contrast my experience (as an entrepreneur) to Guy’s experience (as a VC):
http://codeworrier.blogspot.com/2005/07/nothing-ventured-nothing-gained.html
Great article and extremely timely for me :-)
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Guy
You actually told me #1 a few years ago (along with “I don’t see anyone using this technology. It just isn’t going to work”)
Sometimes I think about our meeting on the way to the Ferrari dealership…
One more:
“Yours is the 20th plan for this concept we have seen.” I got that one when we presented an e-coupon management system to Media Venture Partners.
Simply the best VC piece ever written.
Steve Smith made me laugh out loud but I still don’t like him if he’s the same guy who scored on his own goal against Calgary and disrupted Gretzky’s 5 cup streak.
so, the #10 is a lie?:-)
Lie no. 3 isn’t a complete lie. I’ve been in a very long first meeting with one of the Israeli partners of a well known US VC firm, where it was clear that he was interested in our deal proposal, but at the end he said “show us some market traction”. Why wasn’t this total bullshit? Because we’re developing a completely new paradigm of solution to a problem that he acknowledges exists, but doesn’t pretend to understand (the firm specialises in technology, our problem space is financial regulatory compliance, specifically anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing). He takes it for granted, and rightly so, that if we get a letter of intent, or a prototype agreement, or something similar, from one or more respected and serious banks, which are notoriously difficult to satisfy, then we have actually hit on something right and it’s worth his firm’s money.
One other firm here actually understood the proposal well enough in the first meeting to start due diligence: unfortunately, it’s broken up because it couldn’t raise a new fund.
I’ve heard all of these and believed none of them.
Playing the startup/VC game is like dating – everyone wants to hook up with that one person who will be amazing in bed, so they end up flirting with everyone until they find the right person.
If you actually believe she really likes you or that he’s going to call you tomorrow you don’t know what game you’re playing.
I´ve been working with start ups for the last four years and I see most of your “lies” are true. Sometimes I have also figured out why some of these guys call themselves “venture” capitalists if they seek low risk operations.
Guy,
Your blog is a relief for those of us who have waded through the great volumes of horse poo hurled at as when we put our hands out for money.
Thankfully… EVERYONE turned us down… now we quietly harvest our nickels and grow sales at a rate that we can sustain.
Absolutely! Great post! My single truth of VCs is that if they’re not chasing you after your first meeting, you don’thave a hot deal ( http://www.psynixis.com/blog/?p=88 )
I’m at a starbucks in Hawaii reading this blog :)
I’m surprised that no one has pointed out that the ‘V’ in VC stands for ‘Vulture’. VCs use multiple rounds of financing to dilute the founders’ holdings and eventually drive them out. They do this by pretending to negotiate in good faith but in reality they stall untill the startup is so starved for money that it is desparate and it is too late to find other sources of money. Been there, seen that.
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Nothing feels as good as honest communication! Honesty is the next killer app…
Best title for a blog that I have seen, damn funny!
And the question is…. How many of those have you used in the past?
:-) Wait, err… all? ;-)
ceo
Re#2: do the “old Japanese” really say that ? I just asked a native and they said they weren’t familiar with the expression. What is the original Japanese for that saying ?
look – apart from money (which is a good thing!) the vast bulk of VC’s offer very little in the way of post investment care and feeding other than getting in the way. you are not going to get Don Valentine on your board or that other guy, Doerr. if you have an idea that you believe is compelling then get out there and finance as much of it on your own or with the help of angels. Look at VC money as expansion money – a milestone of success. Traction is good – it is a negotiating chip. Risking your own money (or team) is good for a number of things:
1. fear is a motivating factor in success. nothing like worrying about the mortgage payment or your kids braces to get you out of bed in the morning.
2. you establish an efficient cost model from the start. you analyze every spending decision as if it was your money – because IT IS YOUR MONEY.
3. because money is time, you find innovative ways to do development, sales, marketing, etc. – because you have no other choice. this gets coded into the company dna and will serve it well if it becomes successful.
I realize that this does not work for everyone – but it probably will work for most. don’t give up valuation because you want a comfortable experience. this is rough stuff – the struggle is the fun and ultimately what defines the company.
make sure you spend money on a good lawyer. somebody who can explain that “vanilla” term sheet to you and what 4x liquidation preference means – “U won’t see any money.”
remember they’re not your friend and in most cases while they may have gone to a better school than you they probably aren’t any smarter.
“Venture capitalists are simple.” NOT TRUE: No sociopath is ever “simple”.
“Alas, entrepreneurs are also simple people.”
NOT TRUE: Entrepreneurs are not simple, but they are often naive and ignorant of the ways of scoundrels. Scientists do not expect lies and are therefore easily lied to.
Wondering if these are same “lies” the institutional investors use when a VC go pitching for funding…
Kinda like #1 but for sales: “We loved your presentation, we love you, but we gave the business to your competitor…”
I want to hear : “We hated your presentation, we hate the way you dress, you smell bad, BUT, here is the business…”
RAUL
Hey Guy
Loving this and the entrepreneurs follow-up post…work for an EU VC mag and have given those links to the editor to peruse…
One other thing…perhaps as a Starbucks fan you might be interested in the Starbucks Challenge?
http://cityhippy.blogspot.com/2005/12/news-starbucks-challenge-30-demand.html
Either way
Namaste
Al
Guy –
I put the following “Top Ten” list together following one of your presentations. Enjoy!
Top Ten Slogans Rejected by Venture Capitalists-
10. “If you’re looking for an Angel, try Anaheim”
9. “Nothing ventured, no one arraigned”
8. “We were first when the bubble burst”
7. “Olympic-sized option pools!”
6. “Home of the Post-Revenue Major Market Third-Round NanoBioQuantumPolycarbonate accelerator fund”
5. “Sign on with the Sopranos or soon you’ll be singing like one”
4. “It used to be your stock. Now come vest with the rest”!
3. “We bring so much value-add, you’re still on your own for cash”
2. “Zero percent of something beats 100% of nothing”
1. “We put the Fun in Funding”
The Top Ten Lies Of Business Gurus!!!
1. I’m successful because I’m brilliant. Never mind that I sold a money-losing piece of crap to a dot-com at the height of the internet madness. You should listen to me for my brilliant insights.
2. I’m not ‘successful’ because I happened to be in the right place at the right time. No sir re, that had nothing to do with my success.
3. If you follow my advice, you’ll be successful too! Just wait till the next irrational exuberant thing comes along.
4. I never “drank the punch” during the dot-com era. I always told everyone that the dot-com bubble was going to burst.
5. Just give me your money and I’ll show you how to raise more. Honest.
6. Oh, I know at least THREE companies that are doing what you are doing. If not, I’ll tell them your ideas so they can get started.
7. You don’t need a direct revenue model. Just aggregate eyeballs and you’ll find a way to make money.
8. I STRUGGLED to make myself a success. Never mind my wealthy parents and Ivy League education.
9. You have to have BALANCE in your life. That’s why I divorced my old wife and took up with a young hottie after I sold my company.
10. I so successful I don’t need to work. That’s why I fly all over the country charging business wannabes $1000 to attend my seminars.
re: stupid guy’s #1
i have noticed a number of “venture partners” (u know rich guys who provide money and “experience” to the vc team) who fall squarely into that category. as part of my pre-meeting dd i always check out these characters – especially if they are going to be at a pitch meeting. I find they ask questions which all revolve around a sort of daily self-afirmation and rarely bear any relevance on the conversation at hand. sort of like drunk hecklers in a comedy club. You either a. decide up front that this group may not be for you or try to answer politely and navigate forward. in any event the 10/20/30 rule that Guy talks about is best way to mitigate. Hold your temper – the whole room may think that he/she is an idiot, but remember he/she is their idiot.
Hey Guy:
could you post some wisdom about building boards – both directors & advisory? also opinions on care and feeding. both as a pre-funding strategy as well as maintaining a healthy relationship (albeit) lopsided relationship once the “marriage” contract has been signed. What do you look for, beyond the obvious stuff, in the BOD process & relationship with management?
I’d like to see this whole racket change. Micro VCs or micro-leading even in Silicon Valley would tone down the hype and make VCs more friendly beast. Wouldn’t they? Why aren’t they more friendly by the way?
VC = Very Conservative
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Don Shade, I am a Cretan. I believe I speak on behalf of all of us in the island of Crete when I say I resend the denigrating terms associated with us, Cretans.
Then again, we are often being mistaken for the Cretins, who descent from the island of Creti. Oh well, such is life.
:-)
– Andreas
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Andreas,
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Don
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That’s an old Russian saying, not Japanese! My husband uses it often, though he talks about “grandma” becoming a “grandpa”.
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Maybe my mother was Russian and she never told me…
Guy
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Well, maybe you can’t take a VC’s remarks verbatim, but what about an MC (Mentor Capitalist)?
I was reading “Wise Words: Lessons in Entrepreneurship and Venture Capital” and it explains a bit about what an MC does (http://www.seanwise.com/ under “What exactly is a Mentor Capitalist?”) maybe an MC is better to pitch to? (They might be a little more direct since they’re not actually managing the funds or making direct investments).
I know CBC’s Dragon’s Den has an MC working with both the VCs and entrepreneurs for the new series coming out this fall; maybe it’s a good intermediary? (http://www.insidethedragonsden.com/)
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However after reading your post and some of the comments, I am not so sure. Is it still possible to make money from ideas? Or do you need to be (already) wealthy to attract money?
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I think we are here on this Earth to learn how to advance our spirits. Although during this process and with these crucial lessons of Life, it seems so unfair and often cause us deep anxiety and depression, as we enrich our Souls. Learning is everywhere and in every situation with open eyes. Learning is not better or more meaningful if it is painful or requires more effort. Do you need a quadruple bypass to change your eating habits or can you begin eating healthier foods and exercising right now without all the pain? Most of us do need a serious wakeup call. Must you give your business away, to finally learn how to fund your business? These messages and lessons just seem to get louder and harsher until we finally get it. If you learn immediately (and that means apply the knowledge), there is no reason to increase the pain and agony. If you continue making the same mistakes…. Do not expect a different result!
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